https://reurl.cc/XQ3m43
Timeline of Kawhi Leonard, Clippers and Steve Ballmer events that led to NBA
investigation
Kawhi Leonard, 快艇與Steve Ballmer引發NBA調查事件群的時間線
原文就不全翻了 有些是當時的公關稿 不重要
July 2019
After leading the Toronto Raptors to an NBA Finals victory over the Golden
State Warriors, Leonard declined his player option and became an unrestricted
free agent. He left the Raptors after one season and joined the Clippers on a
three-year, $103 million deal. The contract had a player option for the 2021
offseason.
2019年7月
在暴龍贏過金州勇士拿下總冠軍後,Leonard拒絕了球員選項並成為UFA。他在暴龍待了一
季之後以3年103M的合約加入快艇且2021年休賽季有一個球員選項。
December 2019
The NBA conducted a formal investigation into the Clippers regarding the
conduct of Dennis Robertson, Leonard’s uncle and primary advisor, while
Leonard was an unrestricted free agent in 2019. Complaints were made about
Robertson asking for improper benefits as part of Leonard’s services.
While this investigation concluded with no punishments for the team, The
Athletic’s Sam Amick wrote at the time that NBA commissioner Adam Silver “
sees salary-cap circumvention as a cardinal sin in the NBA” and that “if
any relevant evidence of improper benefits surfaces in the future, the league
will re-open the investigation and pursue the charges yet again.”
2019年12月
NBA因Kawhi Leonard的舅舅同時也是最主要顧問Dennis Robertson的行為對快艇展開正式
調查。投訴內容是關於Robertson在Leonard的服務中要求不當的好處。
雖然調查結果並沒有對球隊作出懲罰,Silver對Amick表示他視逃過NBA薪資上限為NBA的大
罪且如果未來有不當利益的相關證據聯盟會重啟這個調查並再次尋求處罰。
September 2021
The Clippers broke ground on Intuit Dome in Inglewood, Calif., the $2 billion
arena that opened for the 2024-25 NBA season. Later that month, the Clippers
held media day at their practice facility in Playa Vista and announced a new
partnership with Aspiration, a company co-founded in 2013 by Andrei Cherny
and Joseph Sanberg. The agreement between the Clippers and Aspiration was
valued at more than $300 million and was set to go through 2043.
Before players met with the media, Ballmer sat down with Sanberg to address
the media. Sanberg spoke as if he would be a key partner with the Clippers
for the foreseeable future.
“We’re so proud to be partnered with the Clippers and Steve Ballmer in
making sure that, as we defeat the climate crisis, Inglewood and the
communities that surround Inglewood are at the front of our fight,” Sanberg
said. “So you’re going to be hearing a lot from us in the coming years
about how we’re partnered to make sure that Inglewood is thriving and one of
the first communities to exit some of the despair that’s happened because of
the climate crisis.”
When Leonard addressed the press later that month, it was the first time he
was made available since injuring his right knee in the 2021 Western
Conference semifinals three months earlier. In July of that year, Leonard
underwent knee surgery to repair his anterior cruciate ligament (ACL).
Leonard declined the player option for the 2021-22 season to become an
unrestricted free agent again. While the thought was that Leonard would sign
a one-plus-one deal with the Clippers, Leonard instead chose a four-year deal
with a player option in 2024, lining up with the extension that co-star Paul
George signed eight months prior.
In what ultimately was Leonard’s only meeting with assembled media between
his June 2021 injury and his return to play in September 2022 (Leonard missed
the entire 2021-22 season), Leonard went on to explain why he took a
team-friendly deal as opposed to a contract that could maximize his earnings
in the 2022 offseason.
“Because I wanted to play,” Leonard said. “I mean, the best situation to
me was to do it one-and-one and then opt out and sign a long-term five-year
deal, but there’s a lot of concerns that that brings up for you guys and
your job and it creates storylines that I’m going to leave the team. One
thing, I wanted to secure some money, and I wanted to be able to come back if
I was able to this year. If I would have took the one-and-one, I probably
would have not played just to be cautious and opted out and took a five-year.
I’m here. I’m here to be a Clipper.”
2021年9月
快艇蓋了新球場也揭幕了新的訓練設施,同月底也宣布了與Aspiration的合作關係。這家
公司於2013年(比想像中還早)由Andrei Cherny與Joseph Sanberg(這個是被抓那個)所創立
。他們與快艇的合作關係價值超過300M且會延續到2043年。(這也是為甚麼債權人第一個列
快艇,因為欠最多)
(合作當時公關細節不重要)
在同一季,Kawhi Leonard因為ACL傷勢而賽季報銷。Kawhi Leonard拒絕了球員選項並重簽
。雖然不少人預期他會簽一紙1+1的合約(因為湊滿年資薪資才能最大化),他卻簽下了對球
隊有利的4年合約並與Paul George的合約對齊。
2022年4月
Leonard agreed to a $28 million endorsement deal with Aspiration under his
company filed as KL2 Aspire, LLC, which was filed four months prior. The
arrangement allowed Leonard to be paid four times a year through March 2026.
Leonard與Aspiration以他公司KL2 Aspire LLC的名義簽下28M的贊助合約,4個月後歸檔。
而他直到2026年3月一年將會領4次錢。
June 2022
It is worth noting that at the time of the Aspiration agreement, Leonard had
not been active on Twitter (now known as X) since 2015. He would not start
using his current verified Instagram account until the following October.
The Clippers used Aspiration in 44 tweets, starting in November 2021 on
rookie Brandon Boston Jr.’s birthday. Here is the first LA Clippers tweet
that referenced both Aspiration and Leonard (on Leonard’s birthday):
https://x.com/LAClippers/status/1542176330745204736
2022年6月
在他與Aspiration簽約的當下,Leonard自2015年以後就沒有活躍的推特(X)帳戶。他直到
這年的10月才有他現在認證的Instagram帳戶。
快艇在44則推文中使用了Aspiration,第一則是2021年11月菜鳥Brandon Boston Jr.的生
日貼文。而這邊是Aspiration與Leonard第一次同時被提到的貼文(Leonard生日文)。
June 2023
The Clippers say that their partnership with Aspiration ended after the
2022-23 NBA season. The final tweet from the Clippers with Aspiration tagged
turned out to be on Leonard’s birthday, again:
https://x.com/LAClippers/status/1674472019222745088
快艇聲明說他們與Aspiration的合作在22-23年球季結束後結束。而快艇有標註Aspiration
的最後一則貼文也是Kawhi Leonard的生日文。
January 2024
An eventful month for the Clippers franchise began with Leonard signing a
$153 million contract extension through 2027, with no player options. It was
Leonard’s first contract since the NBA agreed to a new collective bargaining
agreement that went into effect the previous June.
Later that month, the NBA announced that the Clippers would host 2026
All-Star Weekend at Intuit Dome, even though the arena wasn’t open yet. It
was around this time that the Clippers acknowledged to the LA Times that “
the sponsorship agreement entered into between Aspiration and the L.A.
Clippers was terminated by the team last season. This in no way relieves
Aspiration from the obligations they are under contract to provide.” That
meant that Aspiration was still on the hook for the rest of the money owed to
the Clippers through 2043.
2024年1月
快艇與Leonard簽下直到2027年153M的續約並沒有附帶球員選項。這是Leonard在新的勞資
協議後所簽下的第一張合約。
一個月後NBA宣布快艇主場將會舉辦2026年明星賽,快艇也同時對洛杉磯時報承認他們與
Aspiration的合作關係上一季已經結束。然而Aspiration並未從合約的義務中脫離。這也
代表Aspiration仍必須支付他們欠快艇的錢直到2043年。
March 2025
Sanberg, Aspiration’s co-founder, was arrested on March 3 for conspiring to
defraud an investment fund of at least $145 million, per the U.S. Department
of Justice. By the end of March, Aspiration filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy.
According to the agreement between Aspiration and KL2 Aspire, LLC, Leonard
was still owed $7 million from the original $28 million arrangement.
Sanberg pleaded guilty to fraud in August 2025, while the U.S. Securities and
Exchange Commission charged Sanberg with “raising more than $300 million
from investors based on a fraudulent scheme to generate and mislead investors
about fake revenues for environmental sustainability services.” The
investigation by the SEC is still active.
Aspiration的共同創辦人之一Sandberg於3月3日被捕,他被指控詐欺了至少145M的投資。
在3月底,Aspiration宣布第11章破產重組(所以技術上來說 這家公司還沒倒)。而根據
Aspiration與KL2 Aspire LLC的合約,Aspiration還欠28M款項中的7M。
Sandberg在2025年8月達成詐欺的認罪協議,但美國證券交易委員會指控Sandbert"從投資
人那邊用詐欺性的規劃來產生關於他們環境業務虛假的營收並誤導投資人獲得了超過300M
。"這項調查仍在持續。
September 2025
Before the release of Torre’s episode, the Clippers denied that the team “
circumvented the salary cap or engaged in any misconduct related to
Aspiration.”
In a statement provided to the podcast, the Clippers said, “Neither Mr.
Ballmer nor the Clippers circumvented the salary cap or engaged in any
misconduct related to Aspiration. Any contrary assertion is provably false.
The team ended its relationship with Aspiration years ago, during the 2022-23
season, when Aspiration defaulted on its obligations. Neither the Clippers
nor Mr. Ballmer was aware of any improper activity by Aspiration or its
co-founder until after the government instituted its investigation. The team
and Mr. Ballmer stand ready to assist law enforcement in any way they can.”
After the Pablo Torre Finds Out episode was released, the NBA said through a
league spokesman that a new investigation of the Clippers will commence. The
Clippers provided another statement to the media after the league statement:
“Neither the Clippers nor Steve Ballmer circumvented the salary cap. The
notion that Steve invested in Aspiration in order to funnel money to Kawhi
Leonard is absurd. Steve invested because Aspiration’s co-founders presented
themselves as committed to doing right by their customers while protecting
the environment.
After a long campaign of market manipulation, which defrauded not only Steve
but numerous other investors and sports teams, Aspiration filed for
bankruptcy. Its co-founder, Joseph Sanberg, recently pleaded guilty to a $243
million fraud. Neither Steve nor the Clippers had knowledge of any improper
activity by Aspiration or its co-founder until after the government initiated
its investigation. Aspiration was a team sponsor for the 2021- 2022 and 2022-
2023 seasons before defaulting on its contract.
There is nothing unusual or untoward about team sponsors doing endorsement
deals with players on the same team. Neither Steve nor the Clippers
organization had any oversight of Kawhi’s independent endorsement agreement
with Aspiration. To say otherwise is flat-out wrong.
The Clippers take NBA compliance extremely seriously, fully respect the league
’s rules, and welcome its investigation related to Aspiration. The Clippers
will also continue to cooperate with law enforcement in its investigation
into Aspiration’s blatantly fraudulent activity.”
2025年9月
在Torre的那集Podcast出來之前,快艇便已經向他發出聲明否認規避薪資上限或涉及任何
與Aspiration相關的不當行為。
(聲明原文 略)
在Pablo Torre Finds Out節目釋出後,NBA透過聯盟發言人表示將對快艇展開新的調查。
快艇之後向媒體提供另一份聲明:
"無論是快艇還是Steve Ballmer都沒有規避薪資上限。所謂Steve投資Aspiration是為了將
資金輸送給Kawhi Leonard的說法完全荒謬。Steve投資的原因是Aspiration的共同創辦人
向他展示自己致力於善待顧客並保護環境。
經過一場長期的市場操縱運動後,Aspiration不僅欺騙了Steve,也欺騙了其他眾多投資人
和運動隊伍,最終宣告破產。其共同創辦人Joseph Sanberg近期承認犯下243M的詐欺罪。
在政府展開調查之前,無論是Steve還是快艇,都不知道Aspiration或其共同創辦人有任何
不當行為。Aspiration在2021-22與2022-23賽季期間曾是球隊贊助商,但之後違約。
球隊贊助商與同隊球員簽訂代言合約並不罕見或不當。無論是Steve還是快艇,都沒有對
Kawhi與Aspiration的獨立代言協議進行監督。說法相反的說辭完全錯誤。
快艇對NBA規範的遵守極為嚴肅,完全尊重聯盟規則,並歡迎針對Aspiration的調查。快艇
也會繼續配合執法部門調查Aspiration的赤裸裸詐欺行為。"
反正目前就是 這樣
我自己找快艇跟Aspiration合作的部分跟記者查得差不多(畢竟公關稿都還在)
其他部分就BSJ那邊爆了一個新瓜 Gambo炒冷飯炒暴龍的事情(15M)
另外,這也不是快艇第一次有相關的事情 2015年Ballmer剛當老闆的時候就曾經替DeAndre
Jordan仲介了一筆Lexus價值200K的代言合約,當時聯盟罰了快艇250K。
(也就是Deandre Jordan原本要跟獨行俠續約結果被Chris Paul關在家裡那次)
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推文 (252)
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yamahaya
不...不要再查了...
09/05 10:42
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joexnozomi
清清白白
09/05 10:43
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jorden
清清白白!
09/05 10:45
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jorden
完全沒辦法解釋 詐騙公司給那麼多錢的原因
09/05 10:45
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EZ78
沒有解釋 純粹把所有資訊列出來而已
09/05 10:46
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tofu0315
這次如果抓一串的話之後應該會明文禁止吧?
09/05 10:46
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cross980115
不用工作領雙薪 實在是太扯了
09/05 10:47
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yniori
清清白白!沒有直接證據
09/05 10:47
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EZ78
Kawhi那邊的東西是真的 不太可能沒問題= =
09/05 10:47
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cross980115
密約這件事早就明文禁止了
09/05 10:47
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jorden
可愛:我只是吃火鍋唱個歌 就拿到2800萬 何錯之有?
09/05 10:48
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yannick80116
沒看到可愛親手拿錢不信
09/05 10:48
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lanchenchen
2800+2000
09/05 10:48
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Kazmier
代言合約這事要怎麼明文規定啊
09/05 10:48
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UchihaObito
阿所以會怎樣嗎不懂,頂多也是罰錢了事不是?快艇
09/05 10:49
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UchihaObito
老闆有的是錢阿
09/05 10:49
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jorden
罰錢+禁賽+拔選秀權 不嚴重
09/05 10:49
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EZ78
CBA規定好像是1首輪+幾M之類的
09/05 10:50
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EZ78
但我不清楚 都是道聽塗說
09/05 10:50
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lanchenchen
罰錢也只是罰一點、選秀權也只是拔一點,還真的普
09/05 10:50
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cross980115
廢約+罰籤+罰錢 雖然有人說目前的新版CBA罰比較輕
09/05 10:50
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cross980115
…
09/05 10:51
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lanchenchen
反正大家因為這次找到秘寶了
09/05 10:51
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jorden
joe smith被禁賽一年 灰狼本來是5年首輪被拔
09/05 10:51
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jorden
後來討價還價改三年首輪 的確不嚴重
09/05 10:51
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UchihaObito
聯盟敢禁賽可愛這明星球員?我是不信NBA敢禁啦www
09/05 10:52
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joh
搞不好會直接取消合約,然後把人趕出去
09/05 10:52
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lanchenchen
那是因爲那時候沒有明文規定罰則,史騰說了算,現
09/05 10:53
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lanchenchen
在有明文規定了,這樣的話可能就是爽到快艇
09/05 10:53
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joh
這個已經不是單純的詐騙,已經涉及到合約AB案,被重
09/05 10:53
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joh
懲不意外
09/05 10:53
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ARTORIA
畢竟是運動員 不是政治人物 輕輕放下
09/05 10:53
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if2
因為乾所以淨!
09/05 10:54
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EZ78
Joe Smith好歹當年也是個狀元
09/05 10:54
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lanchenchen
我是覺得要用特別條例來看,不重罰以後大家就這樣
09/05 10:54
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lanchenchen
搞,NBA就是準備抓高點了,高割離席。
09/05 10:54
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lanchenchen
如果輕輕放下,以前:不然你別看NBA啊;今天開始,
09/05 10:55
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lanchenchen
美國可能很多人都還真的不想看了XDD
09/05 10:55
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jorden
NBA剛簽轉播合約 又發生這種AB約 我是阿銀
09/05 10:55
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jorden
我會想搓湯圓 大事化小 小事化無
09/05 10:56
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lanchenchen
只能說吼,說自己從小就是艇迷的,我是認真不知道
09/05 10:56
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lanchenchen
快艇史他到底都經歷了什麼
09/05 10:56
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cysticercus
如果這次就罰個錢 強烈建議金塊也玩一波
09/05 10:56
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lanchenchen
如果輕輕放下,以後湖人也可以玩啊,還可以從道奇
09/05 10:57
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lanchenchen
那邊發代言
09/05 10:57
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jorden
公鹿會最不甘心吧 買斷小李 只為了簽turner
09/05 10:59
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cross980115
公鹿那邊沒差啦 那邊難搞盤外 除非你要叫turner領
09/05 11:00
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lanchenchen
繳豪華稅跟想辦法用各種神交易去操作的球隊都會想
09/05 11:00
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cross980115
底薪…那就不可能的事 瞎子都會覺得有問題
09/05 11:00
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lanchenchen
說: am I a joke to NBA?
09/05 11:01
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cysticercus
金塊早知道能這樣玩 三連霸了吧
09/05 11:01
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lanchenchen
波士頓早知道可以這樣玩,早就30冠了
09/05 11:01
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UchihaObito
要要要,支持每個球隊都玩一波
09/05 11:01
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cysticercus
好 大家都來玩吧 看誰強
09/05 11:02
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lanchenchen
勇士這十年早就6連霸了
09/05 11:02
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EZ78
大家都玩還是爽到快艇阿(X
09/05 11:02
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ARTORIA
近幾年拿過冠軍的隊伍:早說 怎麼不早說
09/05 11:02
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lanchenchen
怎麼沒我湖?珍妮沒錢…
09/05 11:02
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jorden
都這樣玩 沒人玩得過快艇無誤........
09/05 11:03
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TheoEpstein
這樣玩暗盤的球隊應該不多,起碼湖人珍妮(沒錢塞盤
09/05 11:03
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TheoEpstein
外)跟波士頓(在規則內玩到聯盟改規則)這種不太可能
09/05 11:03
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lanchenchen
沒錢小城市球隊這20年只服馬刺啦
09/05 11:03
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cysticercus
就說這是老鮑佈的局了
09/05 11:03
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ARTORIA
要老闆有錢又願意花錢阿
09/05 11:04
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UchihaObito
反正我看法就是最後查無不法謝謝指教,有事的話最
09/05 11:04
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EZ78
其實看下來如果有暗盤 比較像Ballmer額外給錢說服
09/05 11:04
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UchihaObito
多也只是罰錢,罰聯盟頂級頭牌球星?想太多了www
09/05 11:05
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EZ78
Kawhi簽4年約而不是1+1
09/05 11:05
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Cishang
只問KL做了啥值48M
09/05 11:05
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TheoEpstein
NBA有錢老闆不多就是聯盟規則限制鈔能力,石油王要
09/05 11:05
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TheoEpstein
玩運動經營寧可去玩英超那種金錢競賽。
09/05 11:05
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EZ78
再往前的就算有暗盤應該又是其他獨立是見了
09/05 11:05
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GimmeTempo
CBA 341頁 視情節4.5M-7.5M + 首輪 + 該合約無效
09/05 11:05
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EZ78
事件*
09/05 11:05
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jorden
MLB笑而不語
09/05 11:06
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TheoEpstein
那個四年約其實可以理解成當時受傷所以入袋為安。
09/05 11:06
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TheoEpstein
因為1+1PO只是湊滿三年有完整鳥權,但早鳥也夠多了
09/05 11:06
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EZ78
黑阿 所以當時也不會有人去質疑這張約的合理性
09/05 11:06
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Cishang
基本上這差不多罪證定讞了,只看阿銀會不會真開罰
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lanchenchen
阿拉伯各老闆想說,早說啊我就來玩了
09/05 11:07
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Cishang
然後是真的罰還是罰個意思意思
09/05 11:07
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jorden
鳳凰城老闆:早說阿
09/05 11:07
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TheoEpstein
我猜 應該會罰但罰意思意思。Ballmer在乎幾百萬嗎?
09/05 11:07
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EZ78
沒定讞啦 還差快艇跟Aspiration那邊的關係
09/05 11:08
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cross980115
賽的舊老闆也不是有錢到能搞盤外的那種啦
09/05 11:08
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EZ78
現在每一方站Ballmer那邊的都是提這點
09/05 11:08
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cross980115
跟珍妮差不多
09/05 11:08
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evangelew
被罰一張首輪簽+幾百萬 那都還好 被取消合約的意思
09/05 11:09
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sunnywing
只有罰款的話 對Ballmer而言根本是零錢
09/05 11:10
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cross980115
被取消合約的話就好玩了
09/05 11:10
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evangelew
是啥? 可愛不能跟快艇續約?
09/05 11:10
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cross980115
當前的約作廢
09/05 11:10
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s111228s
我猜罰錢+1首輪
09/05 11:10
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EZ78
被罰一張首輪大概率是丟一張 #30...lol
09/05 11:10
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lanchenchen
一張首輪+幾百萬,根本不痛不癢就是了
09/05 11:11
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TheoEpstein
Joe Smith當年最後還是跟灰狼續約了
09/05 11:11
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evangelew
那真的不怎麼痛 首輪末段未必比二輪前段優
09/05 11:11
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cross980115
而且基本上會禁止快艇重簽回
09/05 11:11
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EZ78
罰首輪一直以來就是有丟就好 沒說要自家的
09/05 11:11
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EZ78
所以可能丟出去的是跟雷霆的交換權吧我猜
09/05 11:11
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cross980115
Joe Smith當年灰狼是討價還價凹到處罰變輕
09/05 11:12
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evangelew
對休賽季的快艇不瞭解 如果可愛真的被合約解除
09/05 11:12
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evangelew
戰力影響會多大?
09/05 11:12
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TheoEpstein
不過是自由球員簽約(舊合約作廢 沒鳥權),6y34M
09/05 11:12
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lanchenchen
如果真是這樣,上個老闆種歧、現任老闆暗盤安全下
09/05 11:13
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lanchenchen
莊,美國人不知道會怎麼看這支球隊XDDD
09/05 11:13
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s111228s
Joe Smith是經紀公司文件都被公佈了
09/05 11:13
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TheoEpstein
應該是取消鳥權而不是禁止簽回
09/05 11:13
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evangelew
還好吧 隔壁的太鼓達人 也活得好好的 美國風氣會對
09/05 11:14
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evangelew
此很重視嗎?
09/05 11:14
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lanchenchen
隔壁太鼓人到現在還會被噓啦
09/05 11:14
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lanchenchen
美國人很重視「光榮」「榮耀」的
09/05 11:15
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evangelew
被噓沒差吧 噓聲是美國日常棒球行為xd
09/05 11:15
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lanchenchen
就是被看不起的那種噓
09/05 11:15
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cross980115
而且因為沒鳥權所以joe smith虧很大
09/05 11:15
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lanchenchen
隔壁那時候過的很辛苦,輕輕放下才能起飛
09/05 11:16
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cross980115
(密約是低薪湊鳥權 之後有鳥權後給大約 可以拿80M
09/05 11:16
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cysticercus
只是想留下鳥權 跟可愛CASE比真是太卑微了XD
09/05 11:16
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cross980115
)
09/05 11:16
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EZ78
美國人很重視光榮與榮耀...嗎?XD
09/05 11:16
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cross980115
合約作廢自然鳥權消失,重簽變成無鳥權長約 超虧
09/05 11:16
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EZ78
如果作廢的話 可愛會不會去籃網阿
09/05 11:16
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cross980115
更正 86M才對 不是80M
09/05 11:17
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evangelew
反正檯面下的錢也拿了 至於壁紙損失的部分就不計xd
09/05 11:17
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ponkd
罰錢+合約作廢+拔選秀權 希望加上禁止交易及卡薪資
09/05 11:17
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cross980115
還有 作廢那年 joe smith是去活塞
09/05 11:17
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lanchenchen
我形容的不好啦,不喜歡作弊吧,不想講那麼直白
09/05 11:18
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cross980115
之後才回到灰狼 不是直接跟灰狼重簽
09/05 11:18
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s111228s
隔壁太鼓人那批應該沒機會進名人堂了
09/05 11:18
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TheoEpstein
作廢去活塞一年然後就跟灰狼簽六年了(當年可以長約)
09/05 11:18
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lanchenchen
這艘船氣場真的不好,強烈建議換隊支持XDD
09/05 11:18
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cross980115
太鼓已經有主事者進去了…可悲的爛人堂
09/05 11:18
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TheoEpstein
可愛的問題是「現在」合約作廢的話 各隊沒空間簽他
09/05 11:19
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QOO9142
以後大家知道怎麼繞了,至於懲罰,就當跑車違停,
09/05 11:19
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QOO9142
罰金當停車費一樣繳
09/05 11:19
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cross980115
當初號稱聖人堂 現在是公然作弊的可以進去
09/05 11:19
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Rinehot
合約解除比較慘啦,等於鳥權沒了。
09/05 11:19
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evangelew
話說如果此例這樣開 老闆夠有錢 都會這樣操作
09/05 11:20
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TheoEpstein
聖人堂不是針對棒子爺火箭人的時候才聖人嗎?
09/05 11:20
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lanchenchen
可愛要是變自由球員,苦命就只能繼續苦命了,蔡董
09/05 11:20
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jorden
合約解除然後幾年內不得回原隊 這才是重罰
09/05 11:20
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lanchenchen
:那個苦我不要了
09/05 11:20
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cross980115
所以才說合約作廢的話就好玩了
09/05 11:20
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cross980115
搞不好會看到一年底薪可愛
09/05 11:20
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jorden
不然罰幾百萬 不痛不癢
09/05 11:20
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evangelew
反正一張首輪+幾百萬美金罰款 對有錢老闆能承受的
09/05 11:20
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QOO9142
Beltran很難說,明年沒什麼大咖,高機率會進HoF
09/05 11:20
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Kazmier
太鼓人那個真的輕輕放下 沒取消當年冠軍
09/05 11:20
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bm1041644
作廢 就看他今年想去哪裡抱團了
09/05 11:20
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EZ78
作廢的話 快艇我記得會有一點點空間
09/05 11:20
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TheoEpstein
NBA也不流行罰禁止交易,看看人家巴薩被禁轉會
09/05 11:20
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bm1041644
明年FA他肯定也有點機會的
09/05 11:21
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Rinehot
如果合約作廢,現在一堆RFA反成最大贏家?
09/05 11:21
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lanchenchen
灰狼最慘,啥都還沒有發生就已經預約十年黑暗期
09/05 11:21
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Kazmier
是還好後來出現大谷拯救MLB收視 不然太鼓事件真的會
09/05 11:21
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EZ78
喔沒事 當我沒說 1M多一點而已
09/05 11:21
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TheoEpstein
只是這樣的話2026 FA同時有老詹跟可愛,太刺激了吧
09/05 11:21
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cysticercus
看來只好重回我刺了 勉強收收
09/05 11:21
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Kazmier
重擊MLB
09/05 11:21
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lanchenchen
真的,要不是亞洲市場,隔壁現在還躺在地上
09/05 11:22
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TheoEpstein
現在剩的RFA最大輸家吧,一年QO明年大約的夢 沒了
09/05 11:22
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Rinehot
為啥?可愛合約作廢快艇不是等於清掉50M?
09/05 11:22
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jorden
馬刺也不會收吧 毛太多了 受不了
09/05 11:22
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evangelew
沒薪資空間的球隊 繼續走檯面下 拿可愛xd
09/05 11:22
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lanchenchen
太鼓人是真的滿傷的
09/05 11:22
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EZ78
快艇在第一層的下面一點點而已 距離薪資空間48M
09/05 11:23
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cross980115
[花邊] Shams:這個休賽季或許是歷史上最瘋狂的休
09/05 11:23
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cysticercus
合約年可愛一定拚 剛好利用一下XD
09/05 11:23
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TheoEpstein
因為快艇超出薪資上限40M..XDDDDD 所以翻上限很尷尬
09/05 11:23
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cross980115
賽季
09/05 11:23
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lanchenchen
隔壁今年真的完全起飛,連明星賽跟全壘打大賽都起
09/05 11:23
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cross980115
我現在相信了
09/05 11:23
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lanchenchen
飛
09/05 11:23
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evangelew
清掉50M 不代表就跑出50M的薪資空間~~~
09/05 11:23
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EZ78
可愛歸零只會清一點出來 中產用掉了
09/05 11:23
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QOO9142
不是少了50M,就有空間50M出來,不是喔,不是怎樣
09/05 11:24
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QOO9142
算喔
09/05 11:24
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Rinehot
那取消合約最開心的反而是雷霆?
09/05 11:24
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TheoEpstein
跟雷霆也無關吧?
09/05 11:25
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Rinehot
快艇籤不是在雷霆那?
09/05 11:25
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EZ78
雷霆一樣拿快艇簽阿 是快艇拿雷霆給的#30去抵債
09/05 11:26
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TheoEpstein
影響不大吧。可愛的重要性是季後賽能打。季賽有鬍子
09/05 11:26
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EZ78
NBA罰簽從來就不會指定給哪個 有給就好
09/05 11:27
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cross980115
影響大的是能撿到低薪可愛的下家
09/05 11:27
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EZ78
反正他一年也就打40-50場 跟不存在差不多
09/05 11:27
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cross980115
到時候就真的很瘋狂了
09/05 11:27
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jorden
低薪可愛 等同中樂透
09/05 11:28
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benson96968
關門要快10年了 好意外欸
09/05 11:28
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Rinehot
也是,有鬍子在要真的搶狀元還是很難
09/05 11:28
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onionandy
合約作廢無鳥權的話現在根本沒球隊有超過中產的空間
09/05 11:29
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TheoEpstein
可愛近五年出賽: 37 68 52 0 52
09/05 11:29
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evangelew
上一季算是他暴龍後的巔峰吧
09/05 11:29
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onionandy
錢沒了可愛可能高機率退休吧 不然只能拿一點
09/05 11:29
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Rinehot
勇士好像還有全額中產可用吧?
09/05 11:29
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EZ78
勇士的狀況喔 額
09/05 11:30
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onionandy
低薪可愛要可愛肯打球 他現在出席率有夠糟
09/05 11:30
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EZ78
你當作沒有全額中產可以用比較好
09/05 11:30
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onionandy
打球沒啥錢拿不一定會要
09/05 11:30
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EZ78
能用早就用了
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TheoEpstein
勇士你當成沒有全額中產比較好 +1
09/05 11:31
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Rinehot
中產簽到可愛,有沒有苦命還有差嗎
09/05 11:31
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cross980115
今年只拿一點 然後明年FA還是有機會拿大的養老啦
09/05 11:31
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onionandy
勇士的狀況是想用全額中產要25M簽6人 當作沒有吧
09/05 11:31
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gundam01
低薪這季可能就養生缺席等能簽大約的球季
09/05 11:31
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jorden
那出勤率都能讓暴龍拿到冠軍了
09/05 11:31
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TheoEpstein
苦命大部分都不是戰力問題而是季中交易的問題。
09/05 11:31
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cross980115
直接退休的話 那也是大事了 密約到直接離開聯盟
09/05 11:32
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TheoEpstein
然後勇士簽可愛是要湊四老嗎?
09/05 11:32
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Rinehot
我的意思是,苦命就算真能交易,能換到比可愛更好
09/05 11:32
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Rinehot
的?
09/05 11:32
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cross980115
金州版F4 不是不可能
09/05 11:32
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TheoEpstein
就算合約作廢,可愛明年應該還有一次大約的機會啦。
09/05 11:33
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TheoEpstein
可愛的出勤率對勇士來說不是好事啊。他們要能上場的
09/05 11:33
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Rinehot
而且苦命要真的拿了QO,就什麼都沒了。
09/05 11:34
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lanchenchen
可愛要是去勇士是多X,當年要不是勇士…
09/05 11:34
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onionandy
那是六年前27歲的可愛
09/05 11:35
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TheoEpstein
要說的話籃網還是比較可能的吧
09/05 11:35
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EZ78
籃網甚至還沒湊到下限的樣子
09/05 11:36
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EZ78
因為Cam Thomas不玩了 薪資直接開大洞
09/05 11:37
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EZ78
所以如果作廢我也是猜去籃網
09/05 11:37
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bm1041644
可愛可以考慮太陽啊 有可能沒季後賽 早早休息
09/05 11:37
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cross980115
去籃網的話應該不會是一年約 搞不好就是長約了
09/05 11:37
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TheoEpstein
只是這個聯盟必須要快點處理,時間上快要開季了
09/05 11:38
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onionandy
籃網還有大招 直接裁掉小火車補人
09/05 11:38
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TheoEpstein
其實小火車撿QO真的就是要籃網準備可以裁掉他吧?
09/05 11:39
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TheoEpstein
這撿下去大家都尷尬,籃網付錢就算了還卡一個名單
09/05 11:39
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cysticercus
還不如不開QO
09/05 11:40
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onionandy
四大RFA最沒本錢檢QO的跑去撿QO 誰知道小火車怎麼想
09/05 11:44
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leon82guy
PG的頂薪該不會就是這樣才不想給吧
09/05 12:19
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popolol
只有在推文中使用 就可以賺那麼多廣告費 這合理嗎
09/05 12:21
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EZ78
推文中使用的是Aspiration給快艇300M的部分
09/05 12:29
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EZ78
可愛是啥都沒做
09/05 12:30
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chichiwater
哪可能搓掉,真當大家是智障喔?
09/05 12:34
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PTTpluto
推文為什麼滿滿既視感,我夢回好幾年前?
09/05 12:35
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pikachuu
1首輪換巨星簽約權,這賺爛吧。合約失效後球員算自
09/05 13:22
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pikachuu
由球員還是進黑名單?
09/05 13:22
噓
happy0394
查無不法,謝謝指教
09/05 13:55
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Wall62
真的很扯
09/05 19:37
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linearppt
這樣一整理好像回到過去..對了,19年可愛待價而沽
09/05 21:50
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linearppt
的時候,就有傳出他舅舅跟個下家索取"好處費",因
09/05 21:50
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linearppt
為那時候消息很亂都覺得是在放消息,看來...沒有什
09/05 21:50
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linearppt
麼事情是空穴來風的。可愛..你的丹尼斯舅舅終究讓
09/05 21:50
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linearppt
你付出很沉重的代價。鬍子是不是地獄倒楣鬼啊,媽的
09/05 21:50
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whhw
推
09/05 23:43
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frank901212
推整理
09/06 01:15
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me91
這咖就只是比較不講話而已,當年馬刺事件就看清為人
09/06 06:50
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pieceofcake
就跟這不是募款 這是演唱會門票阿 大家都這樣搞繞一
09/06 10:03
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pieceofcake
圈把薪水轉歪掉 以後誰要守規定?這是老闆阿罵的贈與
09/06 10:03
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pieceofcake
這是老闆金孫的老婆贈與 都不是薪水
09/06 10:04
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pieceofcake
以後乾脆找白手套好了 NBA的薪水會有人受不了走歪完
09/06 10:05
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pieceofcake
全可以理解 以後再來個四年不轉隊的借貸契約好了拉
09/06 10:05
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pieceofcake
一堆愛亂搞的就都給我搞起來
09/06 10:06