https://t.co/pxbWXp5InI
The Heat are “cautiously optimistic” about the possibility of making a
Jimmy Butler trade before the February 6 deadline, according to Barry Jackson
and Anthony Chiang of The Miami Herald, who report that Miami has been
engaging “several” teams besides the Suns.
熱火對於能夠在2/6交易大限完成Butler的交易保持謹慎樂觀的態度,根據Barry Jackson
以及Anthony Chiang來自邁阿密先鋒報的消息,熱火正在與太陽以外的多支球隊進行交易
討論
While Phoenix has long been viewed as Butler’s preferred landing spot and
the team most willing to give the 35-year-old the maximum-salary contract he’
s seeking, the Suns haven’t had much luck finding a trade structure that
works, per The Herald.
雖然太陽長期以來都被視為Butler的交易首選,而且球隊願意支付Butler頂薪續約
,但太陽在尋找合適的交易架構上並沒有取得太多的進展
Bradley Beal would have to be sent to a third team in order for the Suns to
acquire Butler, since Phoenix can’t aggregate contracts and Miami isn’t
interested in the veteran guard, who has two more years and nearly $111MM
left on his contract after this season.
Beal必須要在Butler的交易案中被送去第三隊,因為太陽不能合併合約交易且熱火對
Beal,這位本季結束後還有2年111M的球員沒興趣
Finding a taker for Beal has been a challenge, especially since he has the
ability to veto any deal using his no-trade clause. While Beal is reportedly
open to waiving that clause to join a contending team, ideally one in a
warm-weather city, he also seems to be comfortable with the idea of remaining
in Phoenix, according to Michael Scotto of HoopsHype.
替Beal尋找下一站是個挑戰,特別是他有霸王條款可以否決任何交易,雖然Beal願意放棄
他的交易否決權以加入一支具有爭冠實力的球隊,且最好是位於溫暖氣候城市的球隊,
但根據Michael Scotto 的報導,Beal對於留在鳳凰城似乎也感到很舒適
Appearing on ESPN (Twitter video links), NBA insider Brian Windhorst backed
up the notion that the Heat are talking to teams besides the Suns about
Butler and said Miami is “really, really trying to make this happen,”
adding that the team’s asking price on Butler has dropped a little from
where it was earlier in the month.
根據ESPN的記者Brian Windhorst的報導,熱火確實有在跟太陽以外的球隊談Butler的
交易而且"非常非常努力想讓達成交易",而且球隊對Butler的要價相比上個月以來有所
下降
“Obviously, the Phoenix Suns have tried to get this done for weeks,”
Windhorst said. “They have tried three-, four-, five-team machinations. They
have not been able to overcome the fact that what they’ve really got to
trade is Bradley Beal, who has a no-trade clause and not a very big market.
So now I do believe this is going to bring in some other teams. We could see
some surprising moves in this little battle in the next couple of days.
“… I am not saying for sure this is going to happen. I’m not predicting
what’s going to happen. But I do think some teams that thought they were out
of this are coming back in because it doesn’t look like the Suns and Heat
are going to be able to consummate a deal. I think we might see a team swoop
in here and get Jimmy Butler at a cheap price. A guy who can be the best
player in a playoff series at a bargain price.”
"很顯然,太陽過去幾週已經努力嘗試完成交易,他們嘗試了,3-4-5隊的交易提案,但
他們沒辦法解決的問題是要交易的對象是Bradley Beal,有交易否決權且在他的交易市場
並不大。所以現在我想可能會有其他球隊跳出來,我們可能會在未來幾天看到有一些讓人
意外的動作"
"我不是說交易一定會發生,我不是嘗試預言接下來會發生什麼,但我的確認為原本退出
交易的球隊可能會重新加入,因為看起來太陽和熱火無法完成交易,或許會有一支球隊以
較低的代價拿走Jimmy Butler,用特價拿走一名能在季後賽系列賽中成為最佳球員的傢伙
"
Since word of Butler’s desire to be traded first broke last month, reports
have indicated that the Heat are willing to hang onto the six-time All-Star
through this season and revisit trade talks in the summer if they don’t get
the sort of return they want by February 6. The club is said to be
prioritizing win-now players with contracts that don’t extend beyond 2025/26.
在上個月Butler喊賣我後,如果不能在交易大限前拿回他們要的回報,熱火本來願意將
這名6屆全明星留到暑假再繼續談,而熱火要的是現在可以幫助贏球的球員以及不會超過
26賽季的合約
However, with the standoff between the two sides continuing to escalate, it
appears increasingly untenable for Butler to remain on the roster for several
more months, which is why the front office is more motivated than ever to
find a viable deal.
然而隨著雙方越鬧越僵,Butler繼續待在熱火幾個月這種做法越來越不可行,所以管理層
比以往都還積極尋找可行的交易
As Jackson and Chiang point out, while Butler’s camp has long conveyed that
he intends to decline his 2025/26 player option in favor of free agency, the
veteran forward could make life difficult on the Heat by picking up that
option in June and essentially putting Miami back in the same situation it’s
in now — with a disgruntled star on a maximum-salary deal, hamstringing the
team’s ability to improve the roster around him.
另外儘管Butler的團隊表示他計劃在25-26賽季拒絕球員選項並進入自由市場,但若Butler
在6月執行他的選項,將使熱火陷入跟目前相同的困境,一個對球隊不滿且拿頂薪的明星球
員,同時缺少改善陣容的靈活性
Additionally, while the Heat are theoretically saving some money as a result
of Butler’s suspensions, team-imposed suspensions don’t affect a team’s
tax bill, and based on existing precedents, it’s possible Butler will regain
a chunk of his lost salary through the appeal process. In other words, the
financial incentive to continue suspending him is minimal.
另外雖然熱火可以靠禁賽他省下一點錢,但這對球隊的豪華稅毫無影響,Butler預計會透
過上訴拿回他被罰的部分薪水,換言之用禁賽拿走他的錢刺激他應該沒啥用
Neither Windhorst nor the duo of Jackson and Chiang named specific teams
outside of Phoenix that might be exploring a deal for Butler. Previous
reporting has indicated that the Grizzlies have kicked the tires on the
possibility, despite being warned against it, while Marc Stein said on Monday
that rival clubs continue to wonder if the Bucks will get involved.
目前的消息都還沒提到除太陽以外,哪些球隊可能對Butler有興趣,先前有消息指出灰熊
有興趣-即使有其他消息提出了警告
(就Butler不想去灰熊)
而Marc Stein在週一表示,聯盟內的其他球隊仍在觀望公鹿會不會參加Butler的交易案。
應該是不會再拖了,大概下週交易大限前就確定會送走了
因為熱火自己也從本來想拖延,變成稍微感覺到不能再拖下去了
目前是稍微對要價讓步增加其他球隊的興趣,也可能有利交易的擴展
搞不好最後出手的會是讓人意想不到的球隊也說不定
然後太陽就老問題,搞不定Beal就沒得談
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推文 (123)
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Sessyoin
交易愈來愈樂觀
01/29 00:24
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uyrmb47
太樂觀了 最好交易不成功 吉巴繼續和油頭鬥法
01/29 00:25
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QoGIVoQ
換不換得成一直不是在這邊
01/29 00:31
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QoGIVoQ
阿銀去年都插手登登了 這個更醜沒理由不管
01/29 00:34
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QoGIVoQ
雖然我覺得油頭未必會鳥阿銀XD
01/29 00:34
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bloodruru
那麼樂觀 還搞禁賽
01/29 00:35
噓
f77928
油頭最鐵血 不要鳥阿銀 也不要交易吉巴 照做就輸了
01/29 00:35
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hansingi
交易成不成,主要還是看熱火要價多少,只要肯讓步
01/29 00:35
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takechance
猶頭比油頭厲害
01/29 00:35
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hansingi
的確可以樂觀點
01/29 00:35
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brian040818
熱火縮了?
01/29 00:36
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GodMune0608
11年前某個對某件事情感到樂觀的人已經......
01/29 00:36
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q888atPt
現在賠率長怎樣
01/29 00:36
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h5t6566556
反著聽
01/29 00:38
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likeyouuu
又硬又縮 是你熱火 lol
01/29 00:39
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yellow528
如果說不想去底特律還可以理解,這不知道是看到第
01/29 00:40
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yellow528
幾個球員說不想去灰熊
01/29 00:40
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Windows11
霸王比爾領那個薪水打那什麼鳥樣還想去爭冠球隊喔
01/29 00:42
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youtoo
不想去灰熊?那油頭應該會送你去XD
01/29 00:43
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QoGIVoQ
因為關鍵不是薪水不是鳥樣 而是那個霸王啊
01/29 00:43
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cor1os
所以熱火真的會怕吉巴執行PO?
01/29 00:45
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youtoo
應該不會到最後是來我網吧...
01/29 00:45
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grayeric
交易失敗後的大場面 才是流量保證
01/29 00:46
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cool8418
吉巴就繼續拖著撿PO看誰先受不了
01/29 00:48
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hayabusa2004
基本上太陽快出局了 比爾沒人要接盤 爛隊他老哥又不
01/29 00:48
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shargo
熱火搞成這樣 讓吉巴的賣相更差了吧 誰還敢要啊
01/29 00:51
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hayabusa2004
屑去 不如丟中鋒換點貨回來
01/29 00:51
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dwiee
越來越樂觀了
01/29 00:51
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QoGIVoQ
吉巴的訴求一直是續三年頂 氣氛也是早就知道的
01/29 00:53
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meta5445
感覺賣到坦隊機率更高,像是公牛巫師爵士之類的,
01/29 00:54
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meta5445
反正坦隊也要填下限剩明年一年合約好處理
01/29 00:54
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TheoEpstein
只要比爾有霸王,他就可以否決任何他不想去的交易
01/29 00:58
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TheoEpstein
然後只有太陽老闆會願意開頂薪延長給吉巴
01/29 00:58
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QoGIVoQ
對啦 主要還是那個鳥權
01/29 00:59
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driftcreator
KOC: 因為熱火降價,所以勇士回歸交易吉巴的談判
01/29 00:59
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KillLakers
不是看著Beal賣不出去 就可以對自己樂觀耶 XDDDD
01/29 01:05
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Fezico
坦隊也不會要JB吧,要來幹嘛?填薪資也要看給不給籤
01/29 01:06
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turnpoint
都沒球隊要,也能保底把他賣去灰熊啊,所以熱火不
01/29 01:11
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turnpoint
急
01/29 01:11
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meta5445
坦隊主要就收籤順便把長約丟掉,像是公牛Lavine 巫
01/29 01:14
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meta5445
師kuzma 不過這就要看熱火願不願意丟首輪
01/29 01:14
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Nuey
只有賣不掉的價格
01/29 01:15
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asdfzx
結果是勇士攔胡
01/29 01:16
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LADKUO56
吉巴不賣他就繼續擺爛啊 對球隊也沒好處
01/29 01:18
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asdfzx
灰熊才經歷過小AI不報到的慘劇,不會冒險硬拿吉巴的
01/29 01:18
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a1296340
吉巴賣不掉肯定繼續無限期禁賽的 不會讓他再有機會
01/29 01:19
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a1296340
在場上擺爛
01/29 01:19
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Athchen
不急
01/29 01:21
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tyrone0923
灰熊現在狀態這麼好,吉巴不想來就算了,幹嘛硬交易
01/29 01:22
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BronyXrG
禁賽又怎樣 一樣卡格子跟薪資線
01/29 01:22
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tyrone0923
冒著可能破壞球隊氣氛
01/29 01:22
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BronyXrG
那個隊伍直接少一個頂薪還有一戰之力的
01/29 01:23
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interestbi
熱火不特價賣的話,JB應該會撿PO,FA誰想買
01/29 01:24
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BronyXrG
更別提熱火另一個頂薪今年超爛
01/29 01:24
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asdfzx
熱火降價的話,重點就是吉巴想去的球隊,勇士機會大
01/29 01:25
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asdfzx
增
01/29 01:26
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yoyofish02
問題是你要看熱火的目標在那,少了吉巴的情況下要爭
01/29 01:27
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yoyofish02
冠肯定是做夢,所以目標就只剩要打進季後賽而已,在
01/29 01:27
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yoyofish02
東區少了吉巴要進季後賽的難度也沒有那麼大就是了
01/29 01:27
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interestbi
JB鬧翻的路線,最慘可能是PO領完退休,但我覺得或許
01/29 01:29
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interestbi
明年夏天有機會拿季後賽球隊的全額中產
01/29 01:30
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skery3188
熱火只有省錢輸球開坦 續約贏球季後
01/29 01:34
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super1315566
看到bleacher report的rumor消息,灰狼嘗試用randle
01/29 01:39
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super1315566
為主菜換來butler,但我是沒特別看細節就是了。
01/29 01:39
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kingfsg7326
??灰狼還會要JB怎可能 熱火貼2個首輪籤回放都不要吧
01/29 01:41
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bm1041644
灰狼為了省錢丟掉軟糖 現在說要換吉巴 亂講一通
01/29 01:41
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kingfsg7326
灰狼
01/29 01:41
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skery3188
沒英雄的熱火已試 沒吉巴的熱火試看
01/29 01:42
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yueyi313
安吉:沒有賣不出去的球員,只有價格的問題!
01/29 01:44
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fenrirdire
熱火其他球員一定很無言 弄到雙輸以後沒人敢來
01/29 01:56
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iso903306
都是大爛約 除非換手換手氣 不然就是無解
01/29 02:00
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bluebear44
其他隊:競爭對手是比爾 來去問看看都有機會贏
01/29 02:05
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ecoli0608
即戰力就爵士啊!Collins+克審或Sexton約都只到26年
01/29 02:07
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ecoli0608
,但就要跟安吉打交道,送去還可以讓吉巴很不爽!
01/29 02:07
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jay228
灰狼不可能要JB 明洲球迷最討厭的球員就是JB
01/29 02:07
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Mydadisgay
那會沒人敢來 不是一堆人說給錢就來嗎哈哈
01/29 02:08
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jay228
更別說薪資上也完全不可能
01/29 02:09
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gnl1n
為什麼不要灰熊啊 好怪
01/29 02:10
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ZEALOTGO
真的笑死 明明這齣鬧劇是熱火跟吉巴開始的
01/29 02:11
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dash007
油頭把JB送去爵士就可以換到2隻有即戰力水準的球員
01/29 02:11
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ZEALOTGO
結果Beal莫名捲進去新聞還不下吉巴
01/29 02:12
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dash007
只有一首輪就能解決,還能達成報復JB的目的(
01/29 02:12
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ecoli0608
安吉只要籤,上面的組合最多薪資可以瘦身8M,一口氣
01/29 02:15
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ecoli0608
降到第1奢侈稅線以下,可以省多少奢侈稅就沒算過了
01/29 02:15
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ecoli0608
!
01/29 02:15
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cool8418
安吉你沒貼簽最好會收
01/29 02:21
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XXXaBg
我猜油頭賤賣吉巴 再狠狠羞辱一次
01/29 02:28
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ooplus
還真別說 爵士那包我會換XDD
01/29 03:19
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sha09876
其實我不理解吉巴在鬧什麼,他不會真的覺得自己還
01/29 03:29
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sha09876
值得續頂薪吧…
01/29 03:29
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zlatan10
賣? 油頭還要貼簽吧
01/29 03:44
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kahn298
我火承受不起吉巴明年撿po
01/29 03:57
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BryantKobe
有人中年換工作會自願降薪的嗎
01/29 05:13
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yugowolf
他就是知道自己不值頂薪 才想利用明星光環鬧看看能
01/29 05:41
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yugowolf
不能逼球團就範 但挑到比他更雞八更硬的油頭 下不了
01/29 05:42
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yugowolf
台 明明其他別人鬧都有達到目的 就我沒有 我怎麼吞
01/29 05:43
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Basket0205
James(兩個都是) 都有降薪阿
01/29 05:47
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cloudyst
為什麼灰熊老是被打槍
01/29 05:57
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Basket0205
Ja位置重疊?
01/29 06:02
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k798976869
不要換了啦 就冰一年半 換個霸王來陣痛期多一年半
01/29 07:42
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dynamis
5000+霸王條款的比爾 看誰要來吞
01/29 08:08
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yugowolf
熱火腦子敲到才會要比爾 真的願意接受比爾早就交易
01/29 08:11
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yugowolf
成真了 就是熱火不要比爾 要讓吉巴去太陽成真就是
01/29 08:11
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yugowolf
要拉3方甚至4方 然後還要讓比爾去讓他點頭同意放棄
01/29 08:11
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yugowolf
霸王的球隊 這難度有多高
01/29 08:11
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gooljasper
一堆熱火老將出來抱怨
01/29 09:09
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turnpoint
Beal現在的合約金額跟長度等於吉巴延長合約後的金
01/29 09:18
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turnpoint
額跟長度,你要熱火吃Beal合約,熱火不如直接續約
01/29 09:18
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turnpoint
吉巴就好,因為是幾乎一樣的合約,實力比較強又沒
01/29 09:19
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turnpoint
有霸王條款
01/29 09:19
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madduxH
如果太陽補貼beal 家人在鳳凰城的房子租金到beal
01/29 09:25
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madduxH
在芝加哥約滿呢?
01/29 09:25
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madduxH
這樣比爾願意放棄霸王條款嗎
01/29 09:26
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o0991758566
最好是可以這樣啦 這種額外私下補償的會被慘罰
01/29 09:43
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stocktonty
你樂觀 其他隊可能沒有
01/29 10:59
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rockheart
吉巴這様搞,賣相越來越差。其他隊誰敢要
01/29 11:00
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Landius
交易愈來愈樂觀 XD
01/29 11:19
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Landius
不是,你火賠著賣總交易得掉吧?
01/29 11:20
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kingroy
密約看看灰狼的下場,罰十年選秀權
01/29 11:26
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kingroy
熱火那不是賠著賣的問題了,出得起比吉巴難搞的合約
01/29 11:29
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kingroy
還真的沒多少,金塊Nnaji跟MPJ那包,Beal的其他都很
01/29 11:29
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kingroy
難湊出50M難搞的薪資
01/29 11:29
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chiahunl
我還期待明年士官長跟油頭,持續糾纏。加油。
01/29 15:21