https://nypost.com/2022/07/12/donovan-mitchell-trade-would-take-knicks-dealing-rj-barrett/
https://reurl.cc/e3e0jm
RJ Barrett a necessary sacrifice if Knicks want Donovan Mitchell
By Mike Vaccaro
若尼克想交易來米丘,RJB是必要的籌碼
The draft picks are the easy part, let’s be honest.
They are attractive to look at, for sure. Leon Rose has collected them merrily, guarded them meticulously, and jealously. There are 11 first-rounders stowed away carefully under the glass in the Knicks’ warehouse, like a prized collection of stamps, coins or baseball cards.
選秀簽好談
LR像集郵一般的呵護他們,並有多達11隻可動用首輪
Rose was not willing to part with a plethora of them a few weeks ago when the Spurs were shopping Dejounte Murray, and so Murray wound up with the Hawks. Murray is an excellent player. He and Jalen Brunson would’ve made a dynamic pairing in the backcourt at the Garden.
But he isn’t Donovan Mitchell.
幾週前,當馬刺願意交易DjM,LR不願意跟選秀權說再見,所以他最終去了老鷹。Murray是一位特別的球員,他跟Brunson的暴力後場可以活躍在花園球場上
但他不是Donovan Mitchell
And according to The Athletic, Mitchell is once again in play. According to the report, Mitchell — three-time All-Star, Westchester County native, owner of a 23.9 career points-per-game average — is being dangled by the Jazz. And the Knicks are thought to be at the front of the line, trying to swing a deal.
根據The Athletic報導,這位生涯場均23.9分的三屆全明星被擺上交易台。而尼克被認為領跑其餘球隊,並積極的促成交易。
The Knicks have all those draft picks, and this is precisely why they have assembled them. They are assets, and if you are willing to part with enough of them they can make a deal more attractive. But the Jazz are a smart operation. It will take more than draft picks — even if the Knicks are willing to part with four or five of them, which is what it took Minnesota to pry Rudy Gobert away from Utah.
The Jazz are going to want players.
尼克有交易米丘的資產- 選秀簽,而這正是尼克收集他們的原因。但即使尼克願意同灰狼帶走狗貝一般放棄4-5個選秀,爵士還會要求更多(潛力)球員
The Jazz are going to want, almost certainly, RJ Barrett (and, if I were a betting man, one of either Immanuel Quickley, Quentin Grimes or Obi Toppin).
幾乎可以肯定,RJB必須放進包裹(若我喜歡放手一博,則會從Quixkley,Grimes與Toppin中帶走一個)
And this is where things get hard.
This is where if you are Leon Rose you have to ask yourself a cold-blooded question: which version of my roster drags the Knicks closer to where they need to be? Barrett would be a tough sacrifice. Knicks fans have watched him grow up over three years. He is still only 22. His work ethic and capacity for improvement are matters of public record. And he is probably the most popular player on the team right now.
He could be a perennial All-Star.
這就是困難的地方,LR需要冷血的自問,自己想要哪種版本的隊伍。
球迷見證了他3年的成長,Barrett有天賦有能力,而且他才22歲。他是隊上最有人氣的球員。
他可能成為All Star的常客
But Mitchell — himself only 25 years old and locked up contractually for four more years — is a perennial All-Star. He has had winning in his blood forever, first at Louisville, lately with the Jazz. As tempting as a Brunson/Murray backcourt was to ponder, a Brunson/Mitchell partnership could truly project to being a cornerstone of an eventual contender.
但米丘 - 綁了4年約,25歲已經是全明星的常客。而他與JB的後場也確實可以成為追逐冠軍的基石
Me? When the choice is young with accomplishment versus younger with upside, I will take the former every time. And I absolutely love watching Barrett play, have loved watching him blossom at the Garden before our eyes.
Is it a massive haul? It is.
至於我,年輕+實績與年輕+天花板中的選擇,我總會選擇前者。
我喜歡RJB在我們的主場時,在我眼前得分成長
這是一個巨大的抉擇嗎?是的
米丘可以讓尼克總在東區前4嗎? 不一定
But the Knicks are in danger right now of being in an even more difficult predicament than they were before Rose arrived, when they were simply an annual piece of the NBA’s dregs. At least when you’re awful every year there’s the lottery — even if, in the Knicks’ case, that’s proven to be a fool’s-gold quest the last 37 years.
Where they are now? Stuck in the never-never land of mediocrity, of 35 to 45 wins every year — too good to have legit lottery odds, too bad to be reckoned with as credible contenders — is a hamster wheel of oblivion, a treadmill to nowhere.
尼克面臨比LR來之前更艱難的選擇,因為尼克那時候就是聯盟的渣渣 ,至少當你爛透了的時候會有樂透選秀。而在尼克37年的歷史來看,每次(在交易)都是一種經典的傻瓜交易
每年35-45勝,讓尼克有如卡在倉鼠輪,不是一個可靠的競爭者,也得不到樂透為球隊注入新生命。
At some point, you have to go for the carrot.
Is Mitchell that carrot? What he is, more likely, is the kind of piece that makes the Knicks a more attractive option than they’ve been in 25 years for future free agents with wanderlust in their hearts. And again, the question is this: what version of the Knicks’ roster makes that more plausible, with Barrett or with Mitchell?
It says here Mitchell. The cost will be steep, and losing a player like Barrett will sting, and for those for whom first-round picks are more valuable than platinum there will be some wrung hands. But Knicks fans are immune to the pain by now; all they crave is a cure. Mitchell would be a pricey cure. But he makes them better. And that’s supposed to still matter.
有些時候,你總是要做出決定
米丘是那個決定嗎?他會讓尼克成為25年來最好的樣子嗎?再問你自己一次,米丘或是Barrett 你想要哪個核心的球隊。
雖然失去Barrett讓人痛苦,選秀簽沒有不見,只是變成你喜歡的樣子。尼克可望被治癒,而米丘就是那個昂貴的治療方案,他讓我們更好,這仍是最重要的。
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推文 (131)
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jyekid
芭樂特變成米丘
07/13 10:15
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weather12
不要吧
07/13 10:15
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sunti0519
放RJB+選秀 感覺很虧阿
07/13 10:16
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L9m
兩個矮刷子..怕
07/13 10:17
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Qorqios
哦...@@ 你尼也知道交易大盤商
07/13 10:17
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FAYeeeeeeee
都簽Brunson了
07/13 10:17
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brewski
JB+米丘 這後場防守不行吧,雖然RJB天花板也不高
07/13 10:17
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angelne
安吉又要開秀了嗎
07/13 10:17
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kidofking
樓下是總管 會換嗎
07/13 10:18
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sustainer123
這不就進攻強化版的米糠
07/13 10:18
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Y225
RJB感覺就是一定要給,如果真的很想要
07/13 10:18
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rondoya
兩個矮子準備被打爆
07/13 10:18
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jyekid
當初尼克真該換莫雷包 起碼有人能coverJB
07/13 10:18
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sustainer123
尼克裡面不是狗貝欸 這後場保證被爽虐
07/13 10:18
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JayFans0610
雖然Mitchell是更好的球員,但後場搭檔如果是Brunso
07/13 10:18
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JayFans0610
n,Barrett還是比Mitchell適合一點吧
07/13 10:18
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jyekid
芭樂特一定要出的
07/13 10:18
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sustainer123
不對 米丘回家就會認真守備了 呵呵 在小城市才不守
07/13 10:19
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ppo7741
傻了嗎
07/13 10:19
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Bigcookie2
目前RJB進步也有限..進攻很不穩定
07/13 10:20
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spree1
這兩個加起來要奪冠?傻了?
07/13 10:20
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Bigcookie2
但防守的確不會像米邱一樣爛就是了
07/13 10:20
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jyekid
其實米丘進聯盟前記得是防守魔人結果沒想到練成醬
07/13 10:20
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Bigcookie2
JB RJB Randle打看看吧
07/13 10:21
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ooxxman
RJB換個環境也好,在尼克不大穩定
07/13 10:21
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azlbf
尼克現在不賭 也要面臨RJB續約問題
07/13 10:21
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Bigcookie2
有JB 看看Randle跟RJB進攻會不會穩定點
07/13 10:21
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Bigcookie2
不然沒控衛看兩個R那邊打鐵...
07/13 10:22
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jyekid
他也不太可能頂薪吧
07/13 10:22
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brewski
不如放RJB練Reddish
07/13 10:23
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otaku690
看RJB打球也很骰
07/13 10:25
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iZinger
RJB防守已經是plus了,不用跟Mitchell比
07/13 10:26
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knicks8888
看到放RJB練Reddish的推文 真的是笑掉大牙耶
07/13 10:27
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artreborn
RJB上季進攻變不穩,本來以為要大進化,卻反而撞牆
07/13 10:29
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iZinger
19梯前五只有Hunter和他是能主防對手主力的
07/13 10:29
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onionandy
自選的留一個吧 不然都剩外來種
07/13 10:29
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danson555
奪冠基石….
07/13 10:29
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xo45527788
JB+米秋後場防守行嗎...
07/13 10:30
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efbnm753
Rjb上季慘是因為紅茶擺爛吧 突然被迫當一哥
07/13 10:31
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gn00152097
RJB會是個優質先發 但應該很難成長到全明星的等級
07/13 10:31
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leo19841010
蠢了才會丟少主去換米丘,尼克不缺SG,安吉要價太
07/13 10:31
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leo19841010
高不會成交
07/13 10:31
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Mentha
側翼工作太多了,能不能成為完全體跟上限在哪都難說
07/13 10:31
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brewski
你要不要去看牙醫
07/13 10:32
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onionandy
尼克應該看看隔壁籃網 自家出品全換掉的下場
07/13 10:32
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azlbf
場均10分先發鎖也很強了
07/13 10:32
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gn00152097
但我覺得尼克應該要用現在陣容打一季試試
07/13 10:33
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efbnm753
我是覺得才第三季 而且才22歲 Rjb的態度一直也都蠻
07/13 10:33
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efbnm753
好的 機體也不錯 摸到all star我覺得不是問題 但說
07/13 10:33
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efbnm753
要能到聯盟前十等級感覺不太可能
07/13 10:33
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ginopun10477
rjb明明就不錯 他不是整隊最能打的嗎
07/13 10:34
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weather12
感覺RJB不是不能換,但米丘真的…
07/13 10:34
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iZinger
他進攻上限沒有Ja和Garland好,但他在爭冠球隊會是
07/13 10:35
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iZinger
比這兩位還好搭配的主力
07/13 10:35
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iZinger
因爲攻防兩端更均衡
07/13 10:35
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gn00152097
他就很適合當3當家的類型
07/13 10:36
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knicks8888
不用 我在看笑話
07/13 10:39
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anderson1979
簽來都好談
07/13 10:39
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Yofu
用不穩的RJB 換爆發力強的米榭爾蠻好的
07/13 10:39
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teren
米丘要叫JB大哥 季後賽被完全打爆
07/13 10:39
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TDKnight
米邱跟JB 這後場防守會爆吧
07/13 10:41
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JayFans0610
反正我是覺得在已經簽了Brunson的情況下,留Barrett
07/13 10:43
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JayFans0610
會比去換Mitchell適合,不如把籌碼拿去補其他位置
07/13 10:43
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sa13961387
尼克換來全明星有好下場過嗎?
07/13 10:43
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sa13961387
今天如果KD這種聯盟前五就算了
07/13 10:44
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Allencash
RJB天花板比較高,三分丘已定型
07/13 10:45
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shaq129
要組雙矮後衛喔 尼克真的是盤子
07/13 10:47
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DPP48
要出RJB換米丘還不如當初直接用選秀籤換DJM
07/13 10:48
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kevinduh4
米丘+JB 有夠矮
07/13 10:50
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sw9294
米丘感覺就這樣了,RJB還沒到頂點
07/13 10:54
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qoqocat
兩個矮子手牽手被對手打點
07/13 10:57
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ishay
尼克出到RJB要不要乾脆問KD看看
07/13 11:01
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dutch14
雙矮後衛?我以為在看拓荒者
07/13 11:02
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CoachKuester
絕對是留RJB
07/13 11:04
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star1234
盤子價,大家快來看
07/13 11:05
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Bronze5god
米邱是A級球星 RJB就是A-而已 前者薪資30M*(3+1)y
07/13 11:11
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Bronze5god
後者的新秀紅利也剩最後一年了 所以其實差不多
07/13 11:12
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SmallGG3cm
那要換來米丘幹嘛?我是覺得米丘跟尼克雙方都不夠強
07/13 11:14
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SmallGG3cm
到值得尼克梭哈
07/13 11:14
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Bronze5god
Jazz看起來就是想打掉重建 榨乾現有球星的價值吧
07/13 11:17
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Bronze5god
但尼克如果是RJB換成米邱 是會升級拉但也不會差太多
07/13 11:18
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SCLPAL
他也去尼克的話,誰當老大lol?!
07/13 11:22
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stja
:
07/13 11:23
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lackofblack
JB+米邱要奪冠是指G League?
07/13 11:25
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kingroy
我是覺得米丘還能開發一點 RJB會愈來愈尷尬 要是RJB
07/13 11:26
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kingroy
養成樂觀的話尼克大概一定抱著不放加提前續約
07/13 11:26
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SmallGG3cm
米丘+紅茶+JB三小頭?
07/13 11:28
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kingroy
生涯前三季的米丘跟現在打完三季的RJB比落差不小
07/13 11:29
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rong0112
這防守 真的暴力..
07/13 11:29
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answermangtr
尼克真的要幹大事了嗎
07/13 11:36
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jack0727
別急著換吧 至少看原陣容打半季試試 後場JB 雷丘防
07/13 11:37
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jack0727
守是想直接open嗎?
07/13 11:37
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ck950643
6-1戰隊
07/13 11:38
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ss88812
別吧 每次滿手好牌都敗給過譽球星
07/13 11:42
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ss88812
雷丘這種砍分仔退化速度都很快
07/13 11:42
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hijodedios36
米丘需要高一點的後場來cover防守 雙矮是想步爵士
07/13 11:46
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hijodedios36
後塵?
07/13 11:46
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answertw
RJB那麼鳥 放進去沒差吧
07/13 11:51
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pages
先發後場是JB+米丘 也只有CAA+尼克幹得出來
07/13 11:53
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JerrySloan
這個命中率... 寧願留著米邱亂射
07/13 11:56
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madeathmao
這兩個基石怎麼疊起來還這麼矮啊
07/13 12:01
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tyrone0923
JB加米邱,是要對手後衛每場都打出生涯新高喔
07/13 12:08
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sxzc
老實說爵迷更想要RJB的情況是狗貝還在的時候把米丘
07/13 12:26
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sxzc
賣掉得來的 現在沒有狗貝了 就等於重建然後換球員養
07/13 12:26
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sxzc
而已
07/13 12:26
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aztom
RJB以前很猛的,U19一人單挑美國隊誒
07/13 12:28
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kuaiphoto
RJB真的別放
07/13 12:28
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linearppt
看看東區前四,兩個矮後衛的後場可真是好主意呢
07/13 12:29
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nyk3
本季我尼送走183公分的walker,迎來185公分的bronson
07/13 13:08
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nyk3
,現打算再換185公分的mitchell來?
07/13 13:08
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tigerlolz
這兩個人互換有差嗎 沒防守 進攻又偏骰
07/13 13:12
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Gakura
JB+米丘+紅茶,尼克是不打算防守嗎
07/13 13:28
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Obama
差別在米邱無傷痛可暴力砍分 RJB只是六神無主亂投
07/13 13:47
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Obama
真要關鍵時刻當一哥 米邱還是比RJB好
07/13 13:48
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Obama
米邱防守也不至於太爛 上季爛感覺是傷痛加心態
07/13 13:49
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Wavecloud
明星潛力側翼換砍將型後衛…應該沒球隊這麼傻 除非
07/13 13:58
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Wavecloud
你是國王尼克之類XD
07/13 13:58
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firemm666
換啊 RJB佑沒多強
07/13 14:24
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firemm666
米丘在後衛中算會守的
07/13 14:28
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rokobomb00
亂講
07/13 14:57
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MK47
兩個矮子 不就拓荒者2.0 衝個毛冠軍啊 二輪差不多
07/13 15:17
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MK47
頂天了
07/13 15:17
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semicoma
我是覺得米丘頂得住大蘋果的壓力 不是因為他紐約人
07/13 17:38
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semicoma
而是他心態上頂得住 這種人格特質放在NBA就是天賦了
07/13 17:39
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Obama
兩個矮後衛,但側翼不矮吧,至少會比三重打四號好
07/13 19:59
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Obama
尼克
07/13 20:00
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cupidysean
RJB 千萬不要啊 拜託了
07/13 20:40
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kenny851117
拜託不要換 RJB的價值比雷丘好多了
07/14 01:28
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nyk3
https://i.imgur.com/AVrdwZi.jpg
07/14 08:28
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nyk3
代價這麼高,傻子才會同意吧?
07/14 08:29
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alfonsosoria
上面那包可以換KD了吧
07/19 08:55